Episode 04: So, We Got Into An Argument

In this podcast, Jamie and I committed to being honest and forthcoming with our relationship and the apparent STUPIDITY therein... so as the podcast moved to the third principle "The Desire to Fight to Be Right" - AND we happened to have just gone through "THE ARGUMENT," we had to dive in. This is either podcasting at it's BEST or podcasting at its worst. Let us know in the comments.

Oh, and no taking sides... I already know whose side you'll be on.

But seriously, taking sides and winning isn't the point. The point is leaning in to understand rather than leaning in to be understood.